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Competitions relying 100% on votes 03 May 2013 18:54 #1

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Hey!! Just wanna know what you guys think about competitions where the results are solely determined by votes.

Let's talk about the most recent competition, The Final 1! can't believe Khim Ng got voted out and wasn't in the Top 5. Some singers in the Top 5 are not even as strong as Khim. I never understood the point of 100% voted competitions. It's like a game of who has the most $$$$ and most friends. Not on the actual competence, performance and talent. Are such competitions just a way for profit hungry people to get more profit for the votes? Or is it a way to choose the MOST POPULAR singer so as to get money out of him after the competition? I might be thinking too much into it but I feel that competitions should be solely judged by the professional judges and results should be from the judges and not in the form of votes. :(
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 04 May 2013 08:50 #2

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I personally find the whole way the Final 1 is handled to be a huge disappointment. The rules make no sense, the production feels amateurish (even I could video edit better and I have 4 months of experience), and so is their website and artwork. And yea the final straw was with the way the results were decided. I was so perturbed by the way things were handled that I stopped covering it on TSL. Seriously who is the person in charge of the production?

Khim was a shoo-in. I can not believe she did not make it. And I wonder how many people actually bothered to vote in, considering that each phone vote (60% of the vote) is $0.85 and the facebook app (40% of the votes) has a convoluted bunch of steps not many people will bother with or understand in the 10 seconds they spend explaining it on the show. I believe their facebook page had about 1.7k followers BEFORE the voting. It requires people to like their page.

Now they have 2.5k followers so that means about 800 people used the facebook app and I doubt as much people used the phone vote because its so damn expensive. So you have about 100 votes per contestant on average, which is an extremely tiny sample easily influenced by people with many friends or friends with spending power. So yes, its a popularity contest. You could just spend $500 yourself to get your family voting for you and then you have 600 votes and easily get into the top 5. Might as well have a reality show where you get a whole bunch of good looking and entertaining people doing random things each week. Then maybe call it "The Final Popular one". That would suit such a voting system. Not a singing contest.

Oh and after that you have this "FINAL results" at the end of the month LOL. A guy called Ken Ong explains the problem with this quite well on their facebook page. "Actually abit no fair to this batch....as The Final 1 gain ground and viewers, more n more people will watch this show and vote... so for the 3rd and 4th batch..easier to get in relatively .." Mr Ken Ong was too kind with his words. This voting system is a complete abomination. Its going to be so skewed with a huge bias to the later groups. Obviously there will be a bigger database by then with more people voting each week and getting familiar with using the app. To do damage control they would need to scale it proportionally based on the total votes each week to make it fair to the contestants. I really have no idea what they are thinking when they implemented this rule.

So yes, I am hugely disappointed and I also feel the judges should have more say. Aren't they JUDGES for a reason?
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 13 May 2013 22:40 #3

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Frankly, it is just like the Star Awards... although that was meant for popularity purpose, but again, if everyone can vote more than once, then seriously its a case of whose pockets are deeper. You could imagine all the backlash when one of the ladies got into the top 10 and she could not even believe it herself.. or did she.

Also, if we are already paying Singtel for admin charges, then why the heck is there additional fees just to vote. Seriously, its a scam.
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 17 May 2013 01:27 #4

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Yea.. it's all about the money money money~~~
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 02 Aug 2013 00:32 #5

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It's the same as competitions requiring most "likes" on Facebook.
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 18 Sep 2013 16:48 #6

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This topic surfaced during Miss Singapore this year when one of the contestants complained to the media that the sysrtem of voting, buying tables for vote was not fair. Especially when audience votes in the finals attribute to half(I think) the point on the score sheet.

In which the organizer replied with grace. Miss Singapore is an icon for good cause, if she is not able to lobby and rally people from different backgrounds for good cause then what is the point?

I can't help but to agree.
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 18 Sep 2013 21:01 #7

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Isn't the General Elections a popularity contest in its basest form? I think the one in 2016 is going to be the most explosive popularity contest ever!
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 03 Jan 2014 08:18 #8

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It's quite a common sight to see competitions where voting has a huge part to play, but I'd definitely have to disagree to a 100% results based on votes scheme. It just shows that it's a popularity contest - win or lose purely determined by your influence and maybe even your monetary power.
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Competitions relying 100% on votes 03 Jan 2014 10:17 #9

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Reminds me of the lame contests in my college. No matter what it is, be it a beauty contest, photography contest, charming smile contest etc, it will end up being a popularity contest. The title doesn't matter at all.
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